Nicholas Hazard (Inco): “85% of jobs by 2030 still do not exist”

In “What Are We Going To Do With You?”, Nicholas Hazard addresses students and all those who are already practicing an activity and looking forward to tomorrow’s work.

Nicholas Hazard is the founding president of Inc., a solid and sustainable investment company. He is the Special Adviser to the European Commission for Social and Solidarity Economy and has just been released What are we going to do with you? Published by Flamerion.

According to Nicholas Hazard, it is important to prepare for tomorrow’s job.

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Student Figaro. – With this title What are we going to do with you? Do you want to address parents or students?

Nicholas Hazard. – Two! This book is made for all those who practice a profession and students who want to orient themselves. We are all affected by the ups and downs ahead. The fourth industrial revolution that we are experiencing (which is robotics, artificial intelligence, connected objects, metavers, etc.) is transforming our economy and this trend will only accelerate. And not linear triptic studies-work-leisure, from now on we all have to go back to school.

“You can’t go from one job to another without training” Nicholas Hazard

You start your book with this sentence: “85% of occupations by 2030 do not yet exist in their current form”. Shall we classify you as a rejecter or an optimist?

I am strongly optimistic. Of course many tasks will disappear, especially due to the automation of certain tasks. However, I am sure that many jobs will be created at the same time, and more than that will be destroyed. But beware, I am optimistic but also cautious. We do not move from one job to another without being trained, and this is the basic message of my book: It is important to prepare and train ourselves to practice the professions of tomorrow.

So your attitude towards our society is too much?

Probably yes. Previous industrial revolutions have shown us that our economy hates a void. Contrary to popular belief, the countries with the most robots in the world, I think of Japan in particular, have the lowest unemployment rate in the world, at around 3%. This is the great challenge of the Industrial Revolution, and one of its peculiarities is that it no longer concerns only blue-collar workers. White-collar workers will see their work performed faster and more efficiently, partly by artificial intelligence (AI).

Reading you, we discovered that it is communication and related professions that will ride this wave of AI.

Tomorrow, what will be most sought after will be complementarity between robots and humans. This is called cobotics. The robot will do what it knows best, like the most repetitive and difficult tasks, while humans will focus more on what makes it unique: its ability to communicate, to have empathy, to analyze complex problems, to invent new things … Another reason for optimism is that, beyond the clichs of science fiction, robots will not replace us, but will complement us.

Let’s talk about training, Inco, under whose presidency you claim to have trained more than 400,000 people worldwide. So training is part of your DNA. And so it is no coincidence that throughout this book you have talked about training …

Inco is a group I created almost ten years ago and whose goal is to build a new, more sustainable economy that benefits everyone. Training people for tomorrow’s work is one of them, especially for those who are away from work. Our goal is to get them started so that they can find their place in the job market. Following all these paths, their difficulties as well as their successes make me want to share my experience through this book.

“Leads the branch of traditional pedagogy”Nicholas Hazard

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Does this mean we need to reform our educational model?

Despite having a struggling teaching staff, this seems to me to be an absolute priority. But it is clear that traditional pedagogy has taken the lead. Countries such as Denmark or Finland (at the top of the famous Pisa rankings) have for some time applied so-called active pedagogy, i.e. where the child is the central player in his education. It is no longer known to a person (teacher) who transmits his knowledge to the students, who must swallow it before evaluating, but the child develops his knowledge through the research situation.

And if the next Labor Minister wants your advice. What will it be?

Outside of school, this is the whole training system that we must continue to review from top to bottom. Both must continue through apprenticeship development, but through alternative methods such as AFEST (which allows training in only one company), VAE development (to obtain professional certification through the validity of his experience achievement) … the support of his youth must be an absolute priority and we Must be packaged.

Let’s stick to the 21 profession galleries that you have presented. It ranges from “nano-doctor” to “re-wild” or even “nostalgist” through “robot psychologist”. It’s almost like science fiction …

It is rather a projection about which already exists. Take the example of the meta-architect, basically a person who builds your home or business for you in the virtual reality world, this parallel world where the youngest spend a good portion of their time. You should know that some people are already spending millions of rupees (and this is not an expression) to acquire land on which they can build buildings. It may sound crazy, but it is already a very real economic reality. The emergence of cryptocurrency with virtual reality will give birth to this new work. Like cricket breeders: we are 8 billion people, soon to be 10 billion in a few decades, we will need new sources of protein to feed our planet, especially because of the carbon footprint of a major rib … many countries Africa and Asia are doing it on a large scale. So yes cricket breeders will have a lot of work to do!

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Any advice for parents and students?

Through this book, I wanted to show that we can all find our place in the job market. Many opportunities will come, so we need to be positive about the future. There are, of course, scientific pursuits, a kind of holly grail in the job market, but not only that … be it creative professions, relationships and communications, or those that call for our analytical skills, there is something for every taste. The secret to success tomorrow is simple: you have to take training and it lasts a lifetime. Our students must clearly understand that what they are learning today is important but not enough. And much better in the end, because when you don’t find your way at a young age, testing and learning is part of the process. In the end, therefore, the main thing is to learn how to learn.

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